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Post by conductor on Sept 13, 2015 16:47:58 GMT -8
Well what a start to the winter season , gorgeous sunny day and everyone pumped to play. Looks like NS United is a team that wants to compete for the top position as they gave a short benched Nordic a beat down 6-2. Roma struggled with numbers at the park and were down early 1-0. They battled back to get 2 and led 2-1 at the half. Seymour came out firing but we're unfortunate to not score on their flurry of chances for the Romans to hold on for the 2-1 result. Howe Sound continues their winter season dominance with a 2-1 victory over the Vikings.
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Post by lupoman on Sept 16, 2015 11:58:48 GMT -8
Sad to see the league down to six teams. I have stated numerous times, there just are not enough over 30's and 40's players to support all the teams on the north shore. Couple that with the fact that the NSCL does not have a feeder system. With VMSL and Millars having open, over 30's and over 40's divisions a player and/or team can come straight out of youth soccer and never have to change leagues. Housing prices and the Rec. Comms 75% north van residents clause also have a great deal to do with declining numbers. Going to be a tough road for the league.
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Post by earl on Sept 16, 2015 14:21:31 GMT -8
what is interesting is that I met with the Millar's league presidents and they both indicated that they don't expect this league to survive another few years and that they will make a proposal that teams join either over 30 Millars or over 40 Millars. Just might happen. But not sure why some teams from Millars would not want to come over to this league. Maybe the league should also be looking in BBY to join up with them = maybe that is an idea
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Post by lupoman on Sept 17, 2015 11:19:45 GMT -8
Simple answer is Millars league guys are used to and like playing on Saturday.
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Post by offsideheys on Sept 18, 2015 10:28:01 GMT -8
Why is everyone bangin on about the Miller's league...? fcuk the Millers league!
They have 6 teams and always have which is the least number of teams we have ever had. We have 2 teams that are interested in joining us next year which will take us to 8. Let's make the most of this season and make it work till we add new blood.
They also have a massively uncompetitive division as we learned when we destroyed all but one team in the cross-over cup whereas any team can beat any other team in our league on any given day.
The grass isn't always greener gentlemen, let's concentrate on mowing our own lawn and make NSCL the best option on the NS and stop worrying about our noisy neighbours.
Let's keep this forum on topic eh...
Some good matchups this weekend:
Sep 20 10:45am Confederation Seymour 3 vs 1 Nordic Sep 20 9:45am McCartney Vikings 2 vs 2 Roma
Sep 20 11:30am Inter River #5 Howe Sound 1 vs 2 NS United
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Post by conductor on Sept 18, 2015 12:51:39 GMT -8
Bravo Offsideheys, Millars league is a great option, than again so is that Urban rec soccer league that is played all over the lower mainland. Millars League in their open divisions is a decent enough league that gives players a chance to play who weren't good enough to play in the VMSL. as for their over 30's and 40's division I totally agree with OSH comments. I will take quality over quantity any day. If there was ever to be a merger this league would be dealing with the Devil in joining up with the Dictator led Millars League. Earl's option of joining the BBY league would make way more sense. As it stands now our league still holds 2 Provincial spots which is golden. Lots of leagues are struggling with numbers in their own top tier masters. yes the numbers are high in the lower divisions and now over 40's is gaining traction. As it stands now yes we have 6 teams but as OSH mentions any one can win on any given weekend.
My picks for this week are
Seymour to win a tight one over Nordic Howe Sound vs NS United will be a tie
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Post by erocco on Sept 18, 2015 13:37:33 GMT -8
For this league to still have 2 Provincial spots is unheard-of. The caliber of this league is between VMSL Div. 1 and Div. 2 over 35's Masters and with 33% of the teams making it to the Provincials makes me question the integrity of BCSA. Hang in there NSCL. You don't deserve 2 Provincial spots but you deserve at least 8 teams.
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Post by earl on Sept 21, 2015 8:42:00 GMT -8
I like the idea of adding 2 more teams to make it 8! well said. hopefully someone is going after these 2 teams to solidify this league
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Post by conductor on Sept 22, 2015 5:55:18 GMT -8
Erocco, I myself at times question the integrity of BCSA, what with the increase of prices just to be registered with them,we pay them twice first for each individual player than also as the league. To add to this the VMSL has 8 teams in their masters premier division, yet they get 6 BC spots for which means a 66% chance and basically only the last two teams in their league don't get in. Heck those odds are pretty much like playing in the CFL. Then you have the FVSL which gets 4 spots for their 7 team masters premier division. Which works out to close to 60% chance at getting a BC spot. I honestly think the NSCL got screwed 5 years ago when the BCSA took away one of their spots. Hopefully when our league is back at 8 teams next year we try and get that 3rd spot back again. Otherwise the integrity of the BCSA will really be on the line. Looks like their was some great games this weekend. A first place showdown between Howe Sound and NS United ends in a 3-3 tie. While Roma battles back from being behind 4-1 with 22 minutes left in the game to salvage a tie against the Vikings.Seymour beats Nordic in a close 3-2 result. Anyone have any comments about this past weekends games?
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Post by earl on Sept 23, 2015 10:14:13 GMT -8
Looks like things are changing. No longer will 1-2 teams dominate this league this year. Anyone can win any Sunday. Hard to call 1st place this year. It would be nice if Roma didn't win 1st and the Goal Scoring title as well. Spread the love Roma
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Post by trapper on Sept 25, 2015 14:07:12 GMT -8
I agree, the League is very competitive this year, I believe all 6 teams are legitimate contenders to finish at the top of the table. Gonna be a close one all year. Howe Sound vs. NS United a great example. HS up 2 - 1 at half, then 3 - 1 shortly after the break. NS continued to battle, scored 2 quick ones with about 25 mins left. HS had chances to win it, but couldn't find the back of the net. Fair result for both clubs. Predictions this week: Vikings 3 - Nordic 1, Seymour 1 vs NS 2, Roma 2 - HS 2
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Post by conductor on Sept 28, 2015 11:46:44 GMT -8
Wow, what a great day for soccer yesterday. NSU is the top team team to contend with and again they come from behind after falling behind to Seymour. Seymour looked to be in control of this game only to find out that this isn't the Guardians anymore where you were almost guaranteed the 3 points. No not this year. North Shore United not only has changed the team name but also the team chemistry and character. As they came from behind to knock off Seymour 4-3. That's 2 weeks in a row that NSU has come from behind to get points. Last week vs HS they were down 3-1 at half time, only to battle back for a 3-3 tie. What a great start to the season so far. Roma and Howe Sound was a cracker as well. Howe Sound got out to an early 2-0 lead 20 minutes into the game. Roma got a lucky one back before the half on a great solo effort by Fozz. The second half saw an even battle with Roma getting 2 goals in the last 15 minutes to steal 3 points away from Howe Sound. Roma gets the winner with less than a minute left in the game.
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Post by Sir M on Oct 3, 2015 16:10:38 GMT -8
Conductor, you are doing a good job of misrepresenting things. A few facts for you: VMSL Masters Premier does in fact have 8 teams and the VMSL (all Masters teams) gets 6 BCs spots. There are in fact 60 VMSL Masters teams: Premier (8), Masters Div 1 (11) Masters Div 2 (11) and Masters over 40 (Divs 1 and 2, 11 teams each). The reason there are so many divisions is that due to the number of teams, obviously they all cannot be one division. FVSL has 28 teams (Masters Premier, Div 1 and Div 2). VMSL has won the BCs every year since the mid 2000s, and has won the Western Canadians several times.
NSCL actually used to have two divisions of around six teams per division and there were some competetive teams then (I believe there were three spots up until a few years ago, and for a year or two in the early 2000s NSCL pulled out of BC Soccer and as such BCs eligibility for a "time out"). It is not that there are not enough of age to form a robust NSCL. It is clearly for other reasons; logic dictates teams have better experiences elsewhere, but that is just theory.
Finally, BCSA has no less integrity than any other soccer association in this province. They may not be very competent, but I don't thin they lack integrity and more than any of the leagues, NSCL included.
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Post by earl on Oct 4, 2015 9:06:26 GMT -8
Interesting comments by both sides but let's face it there goes the league. I would be surprised that strong players for the few keys team left want to stay in a 5 team league. Nothing against the people running the league but I can't see a Roma or even the new NS team being happy playing each team 4 teams a year. I could be wrong and maybe there is something in the works but if there is it won't happen until next year. Critical year for this league. Next year I will not be surprised if it shut down shop all together. And I don't agree with all of Conductors comments. It was he how clearly said "I don't care if Nordic stays in the league or not". He didn't fight for Nordic to stay in. Good luck to the remaining team. Be bad if this league folded but I think that's the way it's going to go and it's hanging on by a string. Maybe we should just accept it for what it is
Good luck to all and it's been a fun ten years
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Post by erocco on Oct 7, 2015 10:11:15 GMT -8
NSCL should change the schedule to 1 game day per month so at least the season lasts until February. From what the schedule shows this league will be complete in mid November.
Sir M well said. I didn't bother replying to conductor as it is very obvious to everyone the quality of VMSL and NSCL. As I stated above the best team in the NSCL would be lucky to finish mid table over 35's Masters Div. 1.
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